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== Re:Rooh Afza edit war == |
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Dear User:Chattenoir, thanks for your message on my talk page. I had a look at the edit history and you are right that it was there in the article before. Upon looking at the suggestion of User:Orientls, however, it seems like that paragraph would be more relevant to the article that pertains to the drink in Bangladesh. I don't feel strongly about the sub-section either way and am impartial as to whether that section is removed or kept from the article. I hope this helps. With regards, [[User:Anupam|Anupam]][[User talk:Anupam|Talk]] 22:37, 14 April 2026 (UTC) |
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:Alright, I had a look at the paragraph in question and do contest that it is relevant to the article. [[WP:ONUS]] does put the burden on the individual(s) who wish to add information to the article (especially if it is contentious). I will start a talk page discussion regarding the sub-section. I hope this helps. With regards, [[User:Anupam|Anupam]][[User talk:Anupam|Talk]] 01:06, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for starting a talk page section on it. [[User:Chattenoir|Chattenoir]] ([[User talk:Chattenoir#top|talk]]) 01:49, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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:::User:Chattenoir, [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AAnupam&diff=1348959043&oldid=1348907202 this remark] is unacceptable. Read the lede of the article. It states: "Other companies formulate the same un-patented recipe in these countries as well." I was simply adding that context to the addition by the IP editor. I think it is best if you use the talk page as that is not appropriate. Thanks, [[User:Anupam|Anupam]][[User talk:Anupam|Talk]] 03:34, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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::::Also, I added a number of references to improve the lede of the article and to correct information regarding the origin of the drink (in Ghaziabad). You inappropriately removed those references. I would ask that you please revert your edit. [[User:Anupam|Anupam]][[User talk:Anupam|Talk]] 03:36, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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:::::I had to restore the earlier version due to vandalism made by you. [[User:Chattenoir|Chattenoir]] ([[User talk:Chattenoir#top|talk]]) 10:38, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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:::::Why did you revert my edit on your talk page, pointing out the edit in question https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Anupam&diff=prev&oldid=1348960268 [[User:Chattenoir|Chattenoir]] ([[User talk:Chattenoir#top|talk]]) 10:43, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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::::The lead of the article only says that after your edit, and I do not believe it reflects any source. Correct me if I'm wrong. [[User:Chattenoir|Chattenoir]] ([[User talk:Chattenoir#top|talk]]) 10:38, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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:::::You are actually wrong; read the [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rooh_Afza&oldid=1348409870 revision] of the article prior to any edits of mine. It clearly already stated "Other companies formulate the same un-patented recipe in these countries as well." Now that I have showed this to you, will you have the integrity to remove your false accusation from the noticeboard? Please be careful and have a look at [[WP:NORESVAND]] before calling proper edits "[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AChattenoir&diff=1349018060&oldid=1349018012 vandalism]". Thanks, [[User:Anupam|Anupam]][[User talk:Anupam|Talk]] 18:23, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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::::::Yeah you're right I got that wrong, but it's still not attributed to a source from what I can see. I have not made any false accusations, I am trying to prevent the removal of sourced content without consensus - which is vandalism and there is nothing wrong with calling it that. If you had waited to gain consensus or at least participate in a discussion before the removal of the content, we wouldn't be having this discussion. [[User:Chattenoir|Chattenoir]] ([[User talk:Chattenoir#top|talk]]) 10:35, 16 April 2026 (UTC) |
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== April 2026 == |
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[[File:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=Stop icon]] '''You currently appear to be engaged in an [[WP:Edit warring|edit war]].''' This means that you are repeatedly reverting content back to how you think it should be, despite knowing that other editors disagree. Once it is known that there is a disagreement, users are expected to [[Wikipedia:Consensus#In talk pages|collaborate]] with others, avoid editing [[WP:Disruptive editing|disruptively]], and [[WP:Consensus|try to reach a consensus]] – rather than repeatedly reverting the changes made by other users. |
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Important points to note: |
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# {{strong|Edit warring is [[Wikipedia:Disruptive editing|disruptive behavior]] – regardless of how many reverts you have made;}} |
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# {{strong|Do not engage in edit warring – even if you believe that you are right.}} |
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You need to discuss the disagreement on the article's [[Help:Talk pages|talk page]] and work towards a revision that represents consensus among everyone involved. You can post a request for help at an [[WP:Noticeboards|appropriate noticeboard]] or seek [[Wikipedia:Dispute resolution|dispute resolution]] if discussions reach an impasse. In some cases, it may be appropriate to [[WP:Requests for page protection|request temporary page protection]]. {{strong|If you continue to engage in edit warring, you may be [[WP:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing.}} [[User:Zalaraz|Zalaraz]] ([[User talk:Zalaraz|talk]]) 04:33, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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:Hi, from my perspective I am trying to prevent one, longstanding content is being repeatedly removed without consensus being reached. Did I do the wrong thing here? [[User:Chattenoir|Chattenoir]] ([[User talk:Chattenoir#top|talk]]) 10:36, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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:The paragraph in question is |
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:'''''"Lawsuit & fines in Bangladesh |
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:On the complaint of false information, misleading advertisements and publication of false information on the web site, Safe Food Inspector Kamrul Hassan filed a case against Hamdard Laboratories Bangladesh on May 30, 2018. In the case, he mentions that the information published in the advertisement with 'Rooh Afza made with 35 fruit juice' is not correct. On June 12 of the same year, Pure food court judge AFM Maruf Chowdhury fined the company four lakhs taka for publishing misleading advertisements. If unable to pay the fine, then the Hamdard chairman and managing director would be punished for three months' imprisonment."''''' |
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:this has been present for a long time, as you can see in this version from last year https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rooh_Afza&diff=prev&oldid=1322841620. |
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:Two users have repeatedly removed this section. [[User:Chattenoir|Chattenoir]] ([[User talk:Chattenoir#top|talk]]) 10:46, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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::It seems you have been warned for copyright violations but it seems you still havent read enough about it. Read [[WP:COPYWITHIN]] and dont copy paste content from Wikipedia articles without providing proper attribution. [[User:Zalaraz|Zalaraz]] ([[User talk:Zalaraz|talk]]) 13:27, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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:::I didn't realise you couldn't copy to a talk page in this manner, I was just trying to illustrate things to you. I am trying to prevent the removal of a section of the page that has been there for months. [[User:Chattenoir|Chattenoir]] ([[User talk:Chattenoir#top|talk]]) 10:25, 16 April 2026 (UTC) |
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== Introduction to contentious topics == |
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{{ivmbox | image = Commons-emblem-notice.svg |imagesize=50px | bg = #E5F8FF | text = You have recently edited a page related to ''' the region of [[South Asia]] (India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Nepal), including but not limited to history, politics, ethnicity, and social groups''', a topic designated as '''''[[WP:AC/CT|contentious]]'''''. This is a brief introduction to contentious topics and does not imply that there are any issues with your editing. |
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Additionally, you must be logged in, have [[WP:ECR|500 edits, and have an account age of 30 days]] in order to make edits related to two subtopics: (1) Indian military history, or (2) caste-related topics in South Asia. Editors are advised to err on the side of caution if unsure whether making a particular edit is consistent with these expectations. If you have any questions about contentious topics procedures, you may ask them at the [[WT:AC/C|arbitration clerks' noticeboard]] or you may [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Indian military history|learn more about this contentious topic]]. You may also choose to note which contentious topics you know about by using the {{tl|Ctopics/aware}} template. }} [[User:Zalaraz|Zalaraz]] ([[User talk:Zalaraz|talk]]) 04:57, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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:A beverage is a contentious topic just because it's sold in south-east asia? [[User:Chattenoir|Chattenoir]] ([[User talk:Chattenoir#top|talk]]) 10:26, 16 April 2026 (UTC) |
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::Don't worry about it, Chattenoir. This is a standard template for anyone who edits a topic related to South Asia. You have followed Wikipedia's policies on [[Rooh Afza]], so I wouldn't sweat it. — [[User:Longewal|Longewal]] ([[User talk:Longewal|talk]]) 21:21, 16 April 2026 (UTC) |
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== [[Talk:Rooh Afza#RfC]] == |
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Thank you for intitiating the RfC to resolve the edit war. I took the liberty to format and edit the RfC intro to make it clear what the RfC is about. Please feel free to make any edits. — [[User:Longewal|Longewal]] ([[User talk:Longewal|talk]]) 21:13, 16 April 2026 (UTC) |
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:Cheers mate. [[User:Chattenoir|Chattenoir]] ([[User talk:Chattenoir#top|talk]]) 21:17, 16 April 2026 (UTC) |
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