Talk:Nikola Tesla

Later years -> Birthday press conferences, paragraph 3: "The US suspected Tesla planed to sell the weapon to the League of Nations," fix typo "planed" to "planned" [[User:Nickspoon32|Nickspoon32]] ([[User talk:Nickspoon32|talk]]) 17:30, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

Later years -> Birthday press conferences, paragraph 3: "The US suspected Tesla planed to sell the weapon to the League of Nations," fix typo "planed" to "planned" [[User:Nickspoon32|Nickspoon32]] ([[User talk:Nickspoon32|talk]]) 17:30, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

:{{Done}} –[[User:Deacon Vorbis|Deacon Vorbis]] ([[User Talk:Deacon Vorbis|carbon]] • [[Special:Contributions/Deacon Vorbis|videos]]) 17:39, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

:{{Done}} –[[User:Deacon Vorbis|Deacon Vorbis]] ([[User Talk:Deacon Vorbis|carbon]] • [[Special:Contributions/Deacon Vorbis|videos]]) 17:39, 5 March 2026 (UTC)

== Infobox proposal ==

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Hi, I propose deleting "Serbia" from {{para|resting_place}} cuz, per [[Talk:Nikola Tesla/Nationality and ethnicity/Archive 18#Infobox (now in...)]], there's a rough consensus against including "Croatia" in {{para|birth_place}}, and as [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nikola_Tesla/Nationality_and_ethnicity/Archive_18#c-Joy-20251004060000-Fountains_of_Bryn_Mawr-20251003211000 Joy has noted], "{{tq|[t]he fact that we omit a mention of Croatia in the same context where we don't omit a mention of Serbia will inevitably trigger more nationalists, ...}}"; replacing "Austria (until 1891)" with "[[Croatia-Slavonia]] (1868–1891)" cuz the kingdom had its own passports, see [[government of Austria-Hungary#Overview]], and Tesla held one, as [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nikola_Tesla/Nationality_and_ethnicity/Archive_18#c-SoupePrimordiale-20251004165200-Thedarkknightli-20251004155300 SoupePrimordiale has noted]; replacing "United States (from 1891)" with "U.S. (from 1891)" cuz [[MOS:IBP]] states, "{{tq|... information should be presented in a short format wherever possible, ...}}", and there's a consensus against spelling out "U.S." or "US" in {{para|birth_place}} and {{para|death_place}}. Thanks, [[User:Thedarkknightli|Thedarkknightli]] ([[User talk:Thedarkknightli|talk]]) 01:00, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

:There we go again :D I still think we should just keep all the labels. I continue to disagree with this sort of head-in-the-sand local consensus here, there's really nothing to be gained from trying to artificially reduce mentions of both Croatia and Serbia. We only lose by way of wasting volunteer time on repetitively dealing with people who are triggered by it. Likewise for the Serbian church which also came up recently. It's basically just a couple of words that don't mean much to the average reader, but are covered in Tesla biographies and generally make sense as context. I don't buy the argument that a few careful labels would confuse anyone, other than maybe people who are already confused. --[[User:Joy|Joy]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 12:11, 26 March 2026 (UTC)

::There was a proper discussion where you took the opposite side and now you are calling that consensus "head-in-sand local consensus". You are diminishing the consensus you don't agree with and you are misrepresenting the consensus by saying "it artificially reduced mentions". This isn't what happened. Nothing was artificially reduced. Couple of words can change meaning significantly, that's why you are pushing for your couple of words, obviously. Please, don't try to misrepresent the consensus and stop pushing to overturn it with such statements. If anyone is wasting volonteur time, it's you by constantly trying to diminish this consensus. [[User:Askab112|Askab112]] ([[User talk:Askab112|talk]]) 15:56, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

:[[User:Thedarkknightli|Thedarkknightli]]. We didn't omit Croatia to balance things with mentions of Serbia. We omitted "now in Croatia" from birthplace because we had consensus that the place Tesla was born in had no relations to Kingdom of Croatia. This was done against sources, but still was done and we should abide by it. Anyone can see where Smiljan is located today. Abouth resting place, it at present is in Serbia. This is the difference. To balance and count mentions of Serbia or Croatia would not be objective. Yes Tesla had Croatian passport, but you'll never get watchers of this page even to acknowledge it on the talk page with a simple confirmation. Good luck adding it to the article. No problems on US. [[User:Ajsbvrjvx|Ajsbvrjvx]] ([[User talk:Ajsbvrjvx|talk]]) 23:34, 27 March 2026 (UTC)

:Look. Croatia was removed for and you have seen why in the discussion. It even had proper formal closure. I just think that wanting to remove Serbia because Croatia is removed are very weak subjective reasons that wont get much tracti9n. [[User:Ajsbvrjvx|Ajsbvrjvx]] ([[User talk:Ajsbvrjvx|talk]]) 00:10, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

::Yes. I agree with you. Resoning that we should remove Serbian just because Croatia is removed is very poor reasoning. [[User:Askab112|Askab112]] ([[User talk:Askab112|talk]]) 17:30, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

:I don't think we should remove Serbian. His resting place is in Serbia. He was never born in Croatia.[[User:Askab112|Askab112]] ([[User talk:Askab112|talk]]) 17:27, 28 March 2026 (UTC)

::Let me clarify [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Nikola_Tesla#c-Thedarkknightli-20260326010000-Infobox_proposal my last comment]: IMHO, 1) it's misleading to write "Austria (until 1891)" rather than "[[Croatia-Slavonia]]{{efn|Part of [[Austria-Hungary]].}} (1868–1891)" 2) we should either keep both "Croatia" and "Serbia", or omit both; given MOS:IBP, there's no need to keep "Croatia" if we include "Croatia-Slavonia" below 3) it doesn't make much sense to write "United States" in {{para|citizenship}} but write "U.S." in {{para|death_place}}. Pinging @[[User:Theonewithreason|Theonewithreason]] and @[[User:OyMosby|OyMosby]], who have reverted my edits ({{diff||prev|1345346740}}, {{diff||prev|1345408845}}). [[User:Thedarkknightli|Thedarkknightli]] ([[User talk:Thedarkknightli|talk]]) 00:20, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

::: Croatia is already mentioned and directly linked 2 times in the article, removing Croatia from the infobox was a product of consensus and rfc, your tit for tat proposal is not very productive here, especially on this page where every single inclusion and removal is a product of 20 years of discussions and RfCs, also Military Krajina was under direct control of Vienna until its dissolution a very known and a sourced fact, so this argument what you are recycling has no historical weight. Please read the red banner above and [[WP:dropthestick]]. [[User:Theonewithreason|Theonewithreason]] ([[User talk:Theonewithreason|talk]]) 11:35, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

::::OK, sorry for the repeated ignorance. I'll try to be more careful from now on. [[User:Thedarkknightli|Thedarkknightli]] ([[User talk:Thedarkknightli|talk]]) 12:47, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

::::No, it's more of a product of consistently bizarre levels of abuse, probably by the same folks who did some more today. --[[User:Joy|Joy]] ([[User talk:Joy|talk]]) 17:41, 29 March 2026 (UTC)

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