Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Classical music
RfC: amending project guidelines on infoboxes: the hidden messages that carry the impression of authority
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* '''Support''' the proposed text is less wordy, more clear, and better reflects [[MOS:INFOBOXUSE]] [[User:Shogeneral|Shogeneral]] ([[User talk:Shogeneral|talk]]) 01:03, 7 April 2026 (UTC) |
* '''Support''' the proposed text is less wordy, more clear, and better reflects [[MOS:INFOBOXUSE]] [[User:Shogeneral|Shogeneral]] ([[User talk:Shogeneral|talk]]) 01:03, 7 April 2026 (UTC) |
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* '''Oppose on principle''' because a {{tl|WikiProject advice}} page should be treated like a [[Wikipedia:User essay|user essay]], and that means that other editors shouldn't mess with it (but are free to write their own essays to disagree with it). I'd suggest renaming this (e.g., /Guide instead of /Guideline). Also, the OP is currently involved in [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/SchroCat|an ArbCom case that touches on this subject]], so the timing of this RFC is unfortunate. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 18:59, 20 April 2026 (UTC) |
* '''Oppose on principle''' because a {{tl|WikiProject advice}} page should be treated like a [[Wikipedia:User essay|user essay]], and that means that other editors shouldn't mess with it (but are free to write their own essays to disagree with it). I'd suggest renaming this (e.g., /Guide instead of /Guideline). Also, the OP is currently involved in [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/SchroCat|an ArbCom case that touches on this subject]], so the timing of this RFC is unfortunate. [[User:WhatamIdoing|WhatamIdoing]] ([[User talk:WhatamIdoing|talk]]) 18:59, 20 April 2026 (UTC) |
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*: The problem is that this advice led to hidden messages in articles which try to prohibit normal editing, but request that permission for an edit has to be obtained on the talk page (one variant, see [[Debussy]]: "Before adding an infobox, please consult [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Composers#Biographical infoboxes]] and seek consensus on this article's talk page.") or prohibit an edit without even offering that possibility (see [[Verdi]] until recently: "Do not add an infobox on this page. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Giuseppe_Verdi/Archive_1#Infobox"). They have come to be mostly ignored, but what will a new editor of the encyclopedia that anyone can edit understand? --[[User:Gerda Arendt|Gerda Arendt]] ([[User talk:Gerda Arendt|talk]]) 21:03, 20 April 2026 (UTC) |
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