Talk:Týr

[[User:Yngvadottir|Yngvadottir]] ([[User talk:Yngvadottir|talk]]) 01:04, 17 April 2026 (UTC) ... Additionally, [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Walhall,_die_G%C3%B6tterwelt_der_Germanen_(1905) Emil Doepler's illustrations for the 1905 book ''Walhall, die Götterwelt der Germanen''] (link goes to Commons category) often has the most beautiful options in the category of "somewhat romanticised late 19th - early 20th century illustrations of the Germanic gods", but in this instance the "Týr binding Fenrir" one is poor: it can be seen [https://bifrost.it/GERMANI/Museo/Doepler-3.html here]. [[User:Yngvadottir|Yngvadottir]] ([[User talk:Yngvadottir|talk]]) 01:17, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

[[User:Yngvadottir|Yngvadottir]] ([[User talk:Yngvadottir|talk]]) 01:04, 17 April 2026 (UTC) ... Additionally, [https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Walhall,_die_G%C3%B6tterwelt_der_Germanen_(1905) Emil Doepler's illustrations for the 1905 book ''Walhall, die Götterwelt der Germanen''] (link goes to Commons category) often has the most beautiful options in the category of "somewhat romanticised late 19th - early 20th century illustrations of the Germanic gods", but in this instance the "Týr binding Fenrir" one is poor: it can be seen [https://bifrost.it/GERMANI/Museo/Doepler-3.html here]. [[User:Yngvadottir|Yngvadottir]] ([[User talk:Yngvadottir|talk]]) 01:17, 17 April 2026 (UTC)

:Old Norse mythology is not limited to skaldic poetry. Academically it generally spans freely throughout the first millenia, first entering a kind of grey zone around the Scandinavian Roman Iron Age (pre 250 AD give or take). Also, why are u using a reconstructed form like "Tiwaz" if u are against non-verbal finds?

:It is academically accepted that the bracteate depicts Tyr: https://www.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:935506/FULLTEXT01.pdf (Steinsland 2007: 270; Andrén 2014b: 143-144, 150, 155-156; af Edholm 2014: 53-54, 87). The statement {{xt|"its lack of clarity to the modern reader, who is not accustomed to trying to make sense of bracteate imagery"}} makes no sense. It is clearly a man getting bit by a dog. Please elaborate?

:As for Frølich's image being fantastical, it is far from the worst out there, but it adds nothing to the subject. Its just a nekked one handed man. With no context it's useless. The bracteate on the other hand is clearly ancient and depicting a motif of probable importance, a dude having his hand bitten by a dog. Once u know the story of how Fenrir was fettered, then its very easy to see what the bracteate mirrors.

:As for '''A-H''', none are are usable for the lead. '''G''' (Bauer) i like as an illustration in the body but not as the lead motif. Bauer's piece is however the best illustration we have at hand which clearly shows Fenrir as an angry wolf and bound in place. The Icelandic depictions effectively makes Fenrir look like a hairly pig bound for slaughter, thus Bauer imo is better strictly motif-wise compared to those, even if it is from the early 20th c. [[User:Blockhaj|ᛒᛚᚮᚴᚴᚼᛆᛁ ᛭ 𝔅𝔩𝔬𝔠𝔨𝔥𝔞𝔧]] 18:17, 20 April 2026 (UTC)