Talk:Dragon bones

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[[:Dragon bones]] → ? – There has been dispute (see [[Talk:Long_gu#Namechange]]) about whether the title of this article should be "dragon bones" a literal translation of the Chinese name, or "longgu"/"long gu" a phonetic rendition of the Chinese name. Both of these titles have considerable use in the scholarly literature (pure ngram searching is probably unreliable due to the use of "dragon bones" in fantasy literature) (with "dragon bones" seeing a broad range of use, particularly for paleontology and history-related literature, while "longgu"/"long gu" is primarily used in scientific papers evaluating traditional Chinese Medicine) [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=0&q=%22dragon+bones%22+OR+%22dragon+bone%22&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5] [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=+%22longgu%22+OR+%22long+gu%22++%22medicine%22&btnG=]. A considerable amount of English TCM literature also uses the terms "Os draconis" (literally "dragon bones" in Latin) [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=%22os+draconis%22&btnG=] and to a lesser extent "Fossilia Ossis Mastodi" [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=%22Fossilia+Ossis+Mastodi%22&btnG=]. I personally favour "dragon bones" because I think it the most recognisable and natural title in English as discussed in [[Wikipedia:Article titles]]. [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 16:29, 13 April 2026 (UTC)

[[:Dragon bones]] → ? – There has been dispute (see [[Talk:Long_gu#Namechange]]) about whether the title of this article should be "dragon bones" a literal translation of the Chinese name, or "longgu"/"long gu" a phonetic rendition of the Chinese name. Both of these titles have considerable use in the scholarly literature (pure ngram searching is probably unreliable due to the use of "dragon bones" in fantasy literature) (with "dragon bones" seeing a broad range of use, particularly for paleontology and history-related literature, while "longgu"/"long gu" is primarily used in scientific papers evaluating traditional Chinese Medicine) [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=0&q=%22dragon+bones%22+OR+%22dragon+bone%22&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5] [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=+%22longgu%22+OR+%22long+gu%22++%22medicine%22&btnG=]. A considerable amount of English TCM literature also uses the terms "Os draconis" (literally "dragon bones" in Latin) [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=%22os+draconis%22&btnG=] and to a lesser extent "Fossilia Ossis Mastodi" [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=%22Fossilia+Ossis+Mastodi%22&btnG=]. I personally favour "dragon bones" because I think it the most recognisable and natural title in English as discussed in [[Wikipedia:Article titles]]. [[User:Hemiauchenia|Hemiauchenia]] ([[User talk:Hemiauchenia|talk]]) 16:29, 13 April 2026 (UTC) — '''''Relisting.''''' {{[[User:GearsDatapacks|GearsDatapacks]]|[[User talk:GearsDatapacks|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/GearsDatapacks|contribs]]}} 20:21, 20 April 2026 (UTC)

:I'm sorry but this framing is deceptive: Long gu was the last stable form of the article name for several years until less than a week ago. The proposed change should therefore be from Long gu to dragon bones, per the policy on stable versions; the article name was changed without significant (or really any) discussion -- I wrote the damn article and I had no idea there was a proposed change even though it's on my watchlist. The difference here is important because of how non-consensus is treated by policy.

:I'm sorry but this framing is deceptive: Long gu was the last stable form of the article name for several years until less than a week ago. The proposed change should therefore be from Long gu to dragon bones, per the policy on stable versions; the article name was changed without significant (or really any) discussion -- I wrote the damn article and I had no idea there was a proposed change even though it's on my watchlist. The difference here is important because of how non-consensus is treated by policy.