Talk:Mangal Shobhajatra
Requested move 14 April 2026: fix format
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[[:Mangal Shobhajatra]] → {{no redirect|Shobhajatra in Pohela Boishakh}} — Because the event has been renamed twice in just two years, we cannot keep this name any longer. It's not necessary to name Wikipedia articles exactly per UNESCO register. I think this name will be neutral that can be used despite potential name changes. I also don't think "Mangal Shobhajatra" is a [[WP:COMMONNAME|common name]] any longer, because news sources have not used the name since 2025. People today generally use "Shobhajatra" only to refer to the event avoiding debate. [[User:Ahammed Saad|Ahammed Saad]] ([[User talk:Ahammed Saad|talk]]) 16:17, 14 April 2026 (UTC) |
[[:Mangal Shobhajatra]] → {{no redirect|Shobhajatra in Pohela Boishakh}} — Because the event has been renamed twice in just two years, we cannot keep this name any longer. It's not necessary to name Wikipedia articles exactly per UNESCO register. I think this name will be neutral that can be used despite potential name changes. I also don't think "Mangal Shobhajatra" is a [[WP:COMMONNAME|common name]] any longer, because news sources have not used the name since 2025. People today generally use "Shobhajatra" only to refer to the event avoiding debate. [[User:Ahammed Saad|Ahammed Saad]] ([[User talk:Ahammed Saad|talk]]) 16:17, 14 April 2026 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' - This is the most popular name for the event. According to the Wikipedia article naming policy, the most common and widely used name should be applied. Changing the title based on an official name—which changes frequently as different governments come to power—would be a biased move. |
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:[[User:Stud.asif|Stud.asif]] ([[User talk:Stud.asif|talk]]) 00:00, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
:[[User:Stud.asif|Stud.asif]] ([[User talk:Stud.asif|talk]]) 00:00, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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::Furthermore, this event is not limited to the regional boundaries of Bangladesh; it is recognized globally as a UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage. A reader from outside Bangladesh is far more likely to search for 'Mangal Shobhajatra' than the specific name recently designated by the government. [[User:Stud.asif|Stud.asif]] ([[User talk:Stud.asif|talk]]) 00:01, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
::Furthermore, this event is not limited to the regional boundaries of Bangladesh; it is recognized globally as a UNESCO Intangible Cultural Heritage. A reader from outside Bangladesh is far more likely to search for 'Mangal Shobhajatra' than the specific name recently designated by the government. [[User:Stud.asif|Stud.asif]] ([[User talk:Stud.asif|talk]]) 00:01, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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:::Wikipedia is not bided to follow UNESCO registered names. The purpose of the renaming is to avoid partisan debates. [[User:Ahammed Saad|Ahammed Saad]] ([[User talk:Ahammed Saad|talk]]) 08:55, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
:::Wikipedia is not bided to follow UNESCO registered names. The purpose of the renaming is to avoid partisan debates. [[User:Ahammed Saad|Ahammed Saad]] ([[User talk:Ahammed Saad|talk]]) 08:55, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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::Your souces for being common?? Since 2025, the mainstream media outlets have been using the official name. The article largely fails to provide sources saying that "Mangal Shobhajatra" is the common name in the intro. "Shobhajatra" is the only common element in this name. The purpose of this rm is to avoid biasness of the name of the event & follow a neutral solution. [[User:Ahammed Saad|Ahammed Saad]] ([[User talk:Ahammed Saad|talk]]) 08:59, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
::Your souces for being common?? Since 2025, the mainstream media outlets have been using the official name. The article largely fails to provide sources saying that "Mangal Shobhajatra" is the common name in the intro. "Shobhajatra" is the only common element in this name. The purpose of this rm is to avoid biasness of the name of the event & follow a neutral solution. [[User:Ahammed Saad|Ahammed Saad]] ([[User talk:Ahammed Saad|talk]]) 08:59, 15 April 2026 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''': There is significant controversy regarding the name of the procession, as each version has been coined by different governments or political party. To keep the name neutral and uncontroversial, I support naming it '''"''Shobhajatra on Pohela Boishakh''"'''. |
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:[[User:Rht bd|Rht bd]] ([[User talk:Rht bd|talk]]) 11:28, 18 April 2026 (UTC) |
:[[User:Rht bd|Rht bd]] ([[User talk:Rht bd|talk]]) 11:28, 18 April 2026 (UTC) |
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*'''Weak Support''' I did oppose this the last time, however, I agree with the OP now. Since the common name is under dispute it'd be suitable to name it something neutral like they suggested. Anyone from Bangladesh could tell you that the government's attempt to change it back to the old name has a snowball's chance in hell for at least the next several years. [[User:Xoak|X]] ([[User talk:Xoak|talk]]) 12:03, 20 April 2026 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''': per COMMONNAME. The name is being changed with every time a new Govt. is forming. Thus there is no consistency of name, post 2024. Above that, since it's in Unesco tangible cultural heritage list, world will more likely to search with "Mangal Shobhajatra". And the lede described it well with officially known as ''Boishakhi Shobhajatra''. If anyday the article name be changed then it will surely be "''Boishakhi Shobhajatra''", as the present Govt. seems like will ask UNESCO to change the name in their official list. But one have to be careful about SPECULATION. So, I don't see any move needed before atleast a year or two to see consistency in sources. (Kindly don't ping me related to this discussion). [[User:Drat8sub|Drat8sub]] ([[User talk:Drat8sub|talk]]) 22:37, 20 April 2026 (UTC) |
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*'''Oppose''' The onus is on the nominator to prove that this is the new common name, and I do not see any evidence presented to show that. It might be too soon to change the name for a 30-year-old event.[[User:Vinegarymass911|Vinegarymass911]] ([[User talk:Vinegarymass911|talk]]) 01:01, 21 April 2026 (UTC) |
*'''Oppose''' The onus is on the nominator to prove that this is the new common name, and I do not see any evidence presented to show that. It might be too soon to change the name for a 30-year-old event.[[User:Vinegarymass911|Vinegarymass911]] ([[User talk:Vinegarymass911|talk]]) 01:01, 21 April 2026 (UTC) |
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* '''Oppose''' per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. Mangal Shobhajatra is the most commonly used name for decades (to be specific, since 1996). Just because the government changed the official name and some people don’t like the word "Mangal", the common name doesn’t become obsolete or no longer used. [[User:আফতাবুজ্জামান|আফতাবুজ্জামান]] ([[User talk:আফতাবুজ্জামান|talk]]) 13:03, 21 April 2026 (UTC) |
* '''Oppose''' per [[WP:COMMONNAME]]. Mangal Shobhajatra is the most commonly used name for decades (to be specific, since 1996). Just because the government changed the official name and some people don’t like the word "Mangal", the common name doesn’t become obsolete or no longer used. [[User:আফতাবুজ্জামান|আফতাবুজ্জামান]] ([[User talk:আফতাবুজ্জামান|talk]]) 13:03, 21 April 2026 (UTC) |
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