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= April 8 =

== Factions of the [[Popular Front (Philippines)]] in 1941 elections ==

While improving the article for [[Pedro Abad Santos]], a Popular Front member who ran for the [[1941 Philippine presidential election]], I tried to verify the claim that {{xt|...Pedro Abad Santos withhdrew from the elections ... after the Popular Front faction of former senator [[Juan Sumulong]] was declared the dominant minority party, instead of Abad Santos' faction}}.

Only claim I need to verify is the background and context of the Popular Front's split into the Sumulong and Abad Santos wings. The articles for Juan Sumulong and the 1941 Philippine presidential election do not provide comprehensive or reliable sources on why this split occurred.
With this in mind, what references can I refer to explain the split of the Popular Front in the 1941 elections?

[[User:RFNirmala|RFNirmala]] ([[User talk:RFNirmala|talk]]) 07:49, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

== Something horrid and obscene ==

There is a [https://www.dib.ie/biography/forbes-ernest-a9550 Shemus (Edward Forbes)] cartoon of [[Edward Carson]] and [[David Lloyd George]] which appeared in ''[[The Weekly Freeman]]'' in about 1921. It portrays Carson as a vulture digging his claws into Lloyd George's forehead. You can see it [https://x.com/DuncanDucky/status/2041799941811515635/photo/2 here]. It has a quotation below it, which I have been unable to source. "For there is something horrid and obscene, that knaws my brain and doth my intellect destroy". If anyone could point me to the origin I would be grateful. Thank you, [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 08:56, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

:A Google search only brings up your inquiry and a copy of the cartoon in [https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/David_Lloyd_George/B8KWBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=%22something+horrid+and+obscene%22&pg=PA111&printsec=frontcover ''David Lloyd George: A Biography in Cartoons'' (p. 111)]. Ive tried searcing for different sections of the quote in case it was a paraphrase, but to no avail. [[User:Alansplodge|Alansplodge]] ([[User talk:Alansplodge|talk]]) 15:56, 8 April 2026 (UTC)
:Obviously "gnaws" is the normal spelling, but that doesn't seem to help. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 16:24, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

: Goethe in ''Faust'', Part I alludes to vultures gnawing a life away.
*: No longer trifle with the wretchedness,
*: That, like a vulture, gnaws your life away! [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Works_of_J._W._von_Goethe/Volume_7/Faust,_Part_I/Act_II,_Scene_I] -- [[User:JackofOz|Jack of Oz]] [[User talk:JackofOz#top|[pleasantries]]] 17:30, 8 April 2026 (UTC)

:::It probably doesn't need pointing out, but it reminds me of Blake's "A Sick Rose", set to music by Benjamin Britten in his [[Serenade for Tenor, Horn and Strings|Serenade]]:


O Rose thou art sick.
The invisible worm,
That flies in the night
In the howling storm:

Has found out thy bed
Of crimson joy:
And his dark secret love
Does thy life destroy.

:::[[User:MinorProphet|MinorProphet]] ([[User talk:MinorProphet|talk]]) 20:12, 9 April 2026 (UTC)

::::Yes, it sounds like it ''could be'' Blake, or Goethe, or Poe, or Shakespeare. [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 20:56, 9 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::Given the context, I expect the source is more pop culture, & very likely Irish. [[User:Johnbod|Johnbod]] ([[User talk:Johnbod|talk]]) 15:20, 10 April 2026 (UTC)
::::::It sounds more Le Fanu or Dunsany than Stoker then. And remember Shemus was English. [[User:DuncanHill|DuncanHill]] ([[User talk:DuncanHill|talk]]) 16:50, 10 April 2026 (UTC)

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