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:What does this have to do with the Osman I WP-article? [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 15:28, 21 March 2025 (UTC) |
:What does this have to do with the Osman I WP-article? [[User:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|Gråbergs Gråa Sång]] ([[User talk:Gråbergs Gråa Sång|talk]]) 15:28, 21 March 2025 (UTC) |
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:Most modern historians agree that Kameriye Malhun Hatun was the daughter of Ömer Abdülaziz Bey (also called Ömer Bey), not the daughter of Sheikh Edebali. This is supported by Sultan Orhan’s 1324 endowment deed, which names his mother explicitly as “Mal Hatun, daughter of Ömer Bey”. By contrast, Rabia Bala Hatun was Sheikh Edebali’s daughter, married Osman I around 1289 and gave birth Alaeddin Ali Pasha; she died in January 1324 and was buried beside her father in Bilecik,So rabia bala hatun are malhun hatun are separate people, but i understand the confusion as there is conflict in the past between historians. [[User:AJMgirl|AJMgirl]] ([[User talk:AJMgirl|talk]]) 06:23, 19 July 2025 (UTC) |
:Most modern historians agree that Kameriye Malhun Hatun was the daughter of Ömer Abdülaziz Bey (also called Ömer Bey), not the daughter of Sheikh Edebali. This is supported by Sultan Orhan’s 1324 endowment deed, which names his mother explicitly as “Mal Hatun, daughter of Ömer Bey”. By contrast, Rabia Bala Hatun was Sheikh Edebali’s daughter, married Osman I around 1289 and gave birth Alaeddin Ali Pasha; she died in January 1324 and was buried beside her father in Bilecik,So rabia bala hatun are malhun hatun are separate people, but i understand the confusion as there is conflict in the past between historians. [[User:AJMgirl|AJMgirl]] ([[User talk:AJMgirl|talk]]) 06:23, 19 July 2025 (UTC) |
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:Yes they are right. Bala was the sheikh daughter. Malham hatuns son Orhan was Osmans successor [[Special:Contributions/~2026-24278-38|~2026-24278-38]] ([[User talk:~2026-24278-38|talk]]) 12:29, 24 April 2026 (UTC) |
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== Byzantine-Mongol convergence attempt section == |
== Byzantine-Mongol convergence attempt section == |
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