Talk:National monument (United States)

: Yes, let's nix the redundant laundry list stuff. If there's been some important recent trends (that sources back up), that might be worth mentioning. Additionally, it might be helpful to add the presidents as a separate column to the table here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Monuments_of_the_United_States [[User:Nearwater|Nearwater]] ([[User talk:Nearwater|talk]]) 06:03, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

: Yes, let's nix the redundant laundry list stuff. If there's been some important recent trends (that sources back up), that might be worth mentioning. Additionally, it might be helpful to add the presidents as a separate column to the table here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Monuments_of_the_United_States [[User:Nearwater|Nearwater]] ([[User talk:Nearwater|talk]]) 06:03, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

::Note: The list article contains only current National Monuments. It only has a brief discussion on the numerous former National Monuments, which are properly in the scope of this article. --[[User:Orlady|Orlady]] ([[User talk:Orlady|talk]]) 15:57, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

::Note: The list article contains only current National Monuments. It only has a brief discussion on the numerous former National Monuments, which are properly in the scope of this article. --[[User:Orlady|Orlady]] ([[User talk:Orlady|talk]]) 15:57, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

== First sentence ==

Alright @[[User:Reywas92|Reywas92]] the issue I have here is that the phrasing is in the first sentence of the lead of the article. Per [[MOS:FIRST]], and [[MOS:LEAD]] in general, I really don't think it's a good idea for to put a phrase directly from 1906 legislation as the first sentence of the article without elaborating on what it means anywhere else in the article. {{tq|The first sentence should introduce the topic, and tell the nonspecialist reader what or who the subject is, and often when or where. It should be in plain English.}} If a reader sees "land owned or controlled" I don't think their mind is going to go to a piece of ocean located over 150 km/100 mi off the coast of Guam that the United States has exclusive fishing rights to. I think it would be better if we were to write:

In the United States, a national monument is a protected area created by proclamation of the president of the United States or by act of Congress. National monuments protect a wide variety of natural and historic resources, including sites of geologic, marine, archaeological, and cultural importance. The Antiquities Act of 1906 established the national monument designation and gave presidents the power to proclaim the creation of a national monument from any area owned or controlled by the federal government.

Would that be acceptable to you? ⹃[[User:Maltazarian|Maltazarian]] ^{ᚾ[[User talk:Maltazarian|parley]]$\backslash lor$[[Special:Contributions/Maltazarian|investigate]]ᛅ} 03:24, 22 April 2026 (UTC)