Talk:Masada myth

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:::[[User:FarFromTheMiddleEast]]: So you didn't see the page-notice? AFAIK, only admins can add the icons, while many of us can add the page-notice. If you didn't see the page notice; please try to replicate the situation (what browser, or operating system, etc, you were using), and I can report it, and get an admin to place a symbol on the page, [[User:Huldra|Huldra]] ([[User talk:Huldra|talk]]) 22:57, 19 February 2026 (UTC)

::::So I was using about a 13 year old laptop with Ubuntu 24.04 and Chromium and uBlock. It looks like the issue is that it takes the visual editors a long time to fully load, and if you click on the page / scroll before it fully loads, it hides the popup. I have similar setup on my main computer, and because it is so much faster, I was able to see the popup before it accidentally got cleared. [[User:FarFromTheMiddleEast|FarFromTheMiddleEast]] ([[User talk:FarFromTheMiddleEast|talk]]) 23:19, 19 February 2026 (UTC)

::::So I was using about a 13 year old laptop with Ubuntu 24.04 and Chromium and uBlock. It looks like the issue is that it takes the visual editors a long time to fully load, and if you click on the page / scroll before it fully loads, it hides the popup. I have similar setup on my main computer, and because it is so much faster, I was able to see the popup before it accidentally got cleared. [[User:FarFromTheMiddleEast|FarFromTheMiddleEast]] ([[User talk:FarFromTheMiddleEast|talk]]) 23:19, 19 February 2026 (UTC)

== New Article ==

Haaretz wrote an article about the myth suitable for the bibliography list. Moshe Gilad, 20 April 2026, [https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/travel/2026-04-20/ty-article-magazine/.premium/why-israel-is-falling-again-for-the-masada-syndrome/0000019d-a956-df26-a1bf-a9dedd4b0000 Why Israel is Falling Again for the Masada Syndrome], Haaretz. This can be used as a source for first paragraph in ''Decline'' [[User:AdoniTzedek|AdoniTzedek]] ([[User talk:AdoniTzedek|talk]]) 08:25, 21 April 2026 (UTC)

::Additionally research published in 2024 disproves the claimed length of the siege. [https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-roman-archaeology/article/roman-siege-system-of-masada-a-3d-computerized-analysis-of-a-conflict-landscape/32C59BE59ACD3E9A91C95F947DFD271E The Roman siege system of Masada: a 3D computerized analysis of a conflict landscape]. A Haaretx [https://www.haaretz.com/archaeology/2024-09-03/ty-article-magazine/roman-siege-of-masada-was-much-quicker-than-assumed-israeli-archaeologists-say/00000191-b7ca-d13c-a39b-bfcf76ed0000 article] summarises, “Nevertheless, after researchers in the past questioned the very claim that the rebels committed suicide, and wondered whether Masada fell in battle, the new study argues that the Romans did not make a particular effort to subdue the besieged.”quote translated from hebrew by GPT