Talk:HQ-11

:The archive link for Janes 2022 source is here.[https://web.archive.org/web/20221124134728/https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/airshow-china-2022-china-unveils-red-11-terminal-defence-system]. @Universe01 again posted his Weibo link, and added that ADK11 name without any reference. I will clean up the pages. My stance is that @Universe01 should not insist on using that Weibo post as his reference for the missile manufacturer. I'm okay for it to be left blank, but his [[WP:OR]] should stop here. There's no mention of the maker of HQ-11 within the Janes source. Just the existence of HQ-11 system itself. The FM-3000, as an export version of the HQ-11, is known information that has been reported by English publications[https://interestingengineering.com/military/china-showed-biggest-military-parade].

:The archive link for Janes 2022 source is here.[https://web.archive.org/web/20221124134728/https://www.janes.com/defence-news/news-detail/airshow-china-2022-china-unveils-red-11-terminal-defence-system]. @Universe01 again posted his Weibo link, and added that ADK11 name without any reference. I will clean up the pages. My stance is that @Universe01 should not insist on using that Weibo post as his reference for the missile manufacturer. I'm okay for it to be left blank, but his [[WP:OR]] should stop here. There's no mention of the maker of HQ-11 within the Janes source. Just the existence of HQ-11 system itself. The FM-3000, as an export version of the HQ-11, is known information that has been reported by English publications[https://interestingengineering.com/military/china-showed-biggest-military-parade].

:Neither these sources nor I claimed that "FM-3000 equals HQ-11", nor that the manufacturer for the export version is the same system as the domestic version (a classic example is [[HQ-10]] and [[FL-3000N]]), or that [[CASIC]] made HQ-11. He wants to add "HQ-11 is manufactured by CASC and [[Shanghai Academy of Spaceflight Technology]]". I have no problem with claims, but I have a problem with his sources. He insists that posing with the Weibo picture repeatedly and using his mark 1 eyeballs as the source. And he still tried to do that yesterday. I have laid out my reasons for other Wikipedians to see, and engaged with him with goodwill enough times.---[[User:Loned|Loned]] ([[User talk:Loned|talk]]) 11:05, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

:Neither these sources nor I claimed that "FM-3000 equals HQ-11", nor that the manufacturer for the export version is the same system as the domestic version (a classic example is [[HQ-10]] and [[FL-3000N]]), or that [[CASIC]] made HQ-11. He wants to add "HQ-11 is manufactured by CASC and [[Shanghai Academy of Spaceflight Technology]]". I have no problem with claims, but I have a problem with his sources. He insists that posing with the Weibo picture repeatedly and using his mark 1 eyeballs as the source. And he still tried to do that yesterday. I have laid out my reasons for other Wikipedians to see, and engaged with him with goodwill enough times.---[[User:Loned|Loned]] ([[User talk:Loned|talk]]) 11:05, 26 April 2026 (UTC)

::Thanks for the archive link; I'll add it to the article now. Since it doesn't support CASC or CASIC, I'll remove the mention of the maker. [[User:EducatedRedneck|EducatedRedneck]] ([[User talk:EducatedRedneck|talk]]) 13:17, 26 April 2026 (UTC)