Talk:Ghulat/Archive 1

:Maybe the word can be used with many meanings in modern Arabic, but as a significant term in religious history, it was used by "mainstream" Shi`i (such as "twelvers") to refer to other groups they didn't want to be associated with... [[User:AnonMoos|AnonMoos]] ([[User talk:AnonMoos|talk]]) 09:55, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

:Maybe the word can be used with many meanings in modern Arabic, but as a significant term in religious history, it was used by "mainstream" Shi`i (such as "twelvers") to refer to other groups they didn't want to be associated with... [[User:AnonMoos|AnonMoos]] ([[User talk:AnonMoos|talk]]) 09:55, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

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== September 2022 rewrite ==

I have [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ghulat&diff=1108909307&oldid=1107999996 rewritten this article from scratch today]. The result is very incomplete and far from ideal, but still much better than the obscure and haphazardly sourced article that sat here before ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ghulat&oldid=1108909307 new] vs [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ghulat&oldid=1107999996 old]). The section on 'Mother of the Book ({{transliteration|ar|Umm al-kitāb}})' was copied from [[Umm al-kitab (Shi'i book)]], the sections 'Book of the Seven and the Shadows ({{transliteration|ar|Kitāb al-Haft wa-l-aẓilla}})' and 'Book of the Path ({{transliteration|ar|Kitāb al-Ṣirāṭ}})' were copied from [[al-Mufaddal ibn Umar al-Ju'fi]], all with some minor copy-editing. For attribution, see the history of those pages.

Ovbiously, the article at this time is extremely uneven, with on the one hand a stubby lead that does not summarize the article but mentions some important facts not yet covered in the main body of the article, and on the other hand very elaborate 'Origins (680–700)', '{{transliteration|ar|Ghulāt}} writings' and 'Bibliography' sections, with almost nothing in between. However, for each subsection the most relevant reliable sources are cited, so anyone who would be willing to expand will find the necessary sources right there.

Conveniently, many of these basic sources are ''[[Encyclopædia Iranica]]'' entries, which are available on the internet for everyone to read (just click the links). I would strongly recommend starting with Halm 2001–2012's [https://iranicaonline.org/articles/golat "Ḡolāt"] article, which gives a chronological overview also followed here. Even by just using that one article the near-empty sections could be substantially filled by anyone who feels inclined to work on this. I personally do not plan to work on the article for some time, though I will likely come back to it at some point in the future. ☿ [[User:Apaugasma|Apaugasma]] ([[User talk:Apaugasma|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Apaugasma|☉]]) 22:53, 6 September 2022 (UTC)