Talk:Arduaine

Talk:Arduaine

Excessive amount of intricate detail: more

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:::::::Sorry I took that to be the implication of your earlier statement that “few would wade through such articles”. Perhaps, rather than “interesting”, we should say “of utility to a person interested in reading a comprehensive introduction to the state of knowledge on a notable topic,” which might be one definition of an encyclopedia article? Incidentally as you know I am new to this but isn’t WP:NNC also relevant? Your argument is that “large passages of intricate census detail about non-notable individuals and dwellings are not appropriate” but I have pointed out this material is not excessive, not intricate, the main dwelling probably is notable for at least two reasons, and even if the 19th century heads of household named in the article are not themselves notable, [[WP:NNC | “Notability guidelines do not apply to content within articles or lists"]] [[User:Ansidhean|Ansidhean]] ([[User talk:Ansidhean|talk]]) 20:59, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::::Sorry I took that to be the implication of your earlier statement that “few would wade through such articles”. Perhaps, rather than “interesting”, we should say “of utility to a person interested in reading a comprehensive introduction to the state of knowledge on a notable topic,” which might be one definition of an encyclopedia article? Incidentally as you know I am new to this but isn’t WP:NNC also relevant? Your argument is that “large passages of intricate census detail about non-notable individuals and dwellings are not appropriate” but I have pointed out this material is not excessive, not intricate, the main dwelling probably is notable for at least two reasons, and even if the 19th century heads of household named in the article are not themselves notable, [[WP:NNC | “Notability guidelines do not apply to content within articles or lists"]] [[User:Ansidhean|Ansidhean]] ([[User talk:Ansidhean|talk]]) 20:59, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
::::::::I should have said, say, "unremarkable" rather than non-notable; not intending WP:N here. Unremarkable material is clearly to be avoided. See the memtion at WP:NNC of "whether something is noteworthy enough" which brings us again to WP:DIR. Why is this household a special case, to have minor details, from a [[WP:PRIMARY]] source laid out at length, as opposed to any other house in Scotland, or indeed wider? How indigestible would such inclusion make wider Wikipedia? [[User:Mutt Lunker|Mutt Lunker]] ([[User talk:Mutt Lunker|talk]]) 21:38, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
::::::::I should have said, say, "unremarkable" rather than non-notable; not intending WP:N here. Unremarkable material is clearly to be avoided. See the memtion at WP:NNC of "whether something is noteworthy enough" which brings us again to WP:DIR. Why is this household a special case, to have minor details, from a [[WP:PRIMARY]] source laid out at length, as opposed to any other house in Scotland, or indeed wider? How indigestible would such inclusion make wider Wikipedia? [[User:Mutt Lunker|Mutt Lunker]] ([[User talk:Mutt Lunker|talk]]) 21:38, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::Your behaviour is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arduaine&curid=6576791&diff=1351435618&oldid=1351422003t displaying a problematic direction]. Removing a maintenance template without addressing the matter or completion of ongoing discussion is disruptive. See [[WP:MAINTENANCEDISAGREEMENT]]. The section I initially tagged is the most affected by non-noteworthy material but this is also the case for other sections, to an extent. Due to your inexperience I'll refrain from taking this further for now but please reinstall the template immediately, pending this discussion. Do not push this attitude. [[User:Mutt Lunker|Mutt Lunker]] ([[User talk:Mutt Lunker|talk]]) 23:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC)
:::::::::Your behaviour is [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Arduaine&curid=6576791&diff=1351435618&oldid=1351422003t displaying a problematic direction]. Removing a maintenance template without addressing the matter or completion of ongoing discussion is disruptive. See [[WP:MAINTENANCEDISAGREEMENT]]. The section I initially tagged is the most affected by non-noteworthy material but this is also the case for other sections, to an extent. TOOBIG is not relevant; low quality is not tolerable as long as it keeps within a word limit. Due to your inexperience I'll refrain from taking this further for now but please reinstall the template immediately, pending this discussion. Do not push this attitude. [[User:Mutt Lunker|Mutt Lunker]] ([[User talk:Mutt Lunker|talk]]) 23:41, 27 April 2026 (UTC)